Wednesday, December 14, 2005

Thermal Images and Molten Metal Indicate that High-Explosives Brought Down the World Trade Center

When confronted with evidence that high-explosives brought down the World Trade Centers, people often come up with very creative arguments in an attempt to defend the official story.

For example, molten metal was found under ground zero, even though the government's own metal experts have stated that the fires in the Twin Towers were not hot enough to melt steel.

Some people have attempted to rebut this evidence by saying that the enormous heat necessary to create and sustain molten metal was created by the friction created by 110-story buildings collapsing in on themselves. In other words, the argument is that the gravitational energy released by the collapse of the gigantic Twin Towers created tremendous amounts of friction as parts of these huge structures crashed into other parts -- which in turn generated sufficient heat to melt the Towers' strong structural steel.

However, World Trade Center building 7 -- which collapsed later in the day on 9/11 -- was only 47 stories tall, and substantially less massive than the Twin Towers. And yet WTC7 apparently experienced equally high temperatures as the Twin Towers after collapse.

Specifically, this thermal image of ground zero with an overlay of the demolished buildings, taken five days after 9/11, shows that the debris under building 7 (the trapezoid-shaped building at the upper right) was about as hot as under the Twin Towers. See this web page (lower left) for an explanation of the thermal image, this aerial photo showing the shape of WTC7, and the maps contained here which confirms which building is building 7 on the thermal image. See also these thermal images.

Are those arguing against demolition of the trade centers saying that the collapse of 47-story building 7 generated the same amount of friction as the collapse of the mammoth 110-story Twin Towers? If not, why were the temperatures at WTC7 as high as at the Twin Towers five days after the collapses?





11 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

had to be a nuclear device. traces of radiation will exist at wtc for years. I suggest people go there with geiger-counters to see for themselves.

2:25 PM  
Blogger Donald E. Stahl said...

"...allowed the fires to rage out of control and reach high temperatures." ?! Is the idea that the longer a fire burns the higher its temperature gets? Is there anything a person won't say to keep their worldview from crumbling?

_Friction_ ?!

7:37 PM  
Blogger Brian de Ford said...

We would be extremely grateful for examples of controlled demolition involving the use of thermite or other high-explosives -- and information about whether, in those cases, any molten metal was observed.

Thermite is not a high explosive. It's not even a low explosive. It doesn't even burn fast enough to act as a propellant. In fact it couldn't act as a propellant anyway because no gas is emitted by the reaction. The only thing thermite does is get hot (around 2500 C).

I'm not even sure that thermite could have been used for the demolition itself. The cutter charges slice through beams in microseconds whereas thermite could take several minutes to melt enough steel to allow a collaps. And there would be the risk of uneven melting causing the building to topple.

You could argue that the beams were thicker at the base and thermite could have been used to melt through enough to allow somebody to place cutter charges in the voids, but that seems implausible, to say the least.

If thermite was used, and it almost certainly was, I doubt it was intrinsic to the demolition itself. Maybe part of the cover-up? A way of stopping people noticing that the beams from the central core were sliced into 20- or 30-story lengths by cutter charges? A way of having those lengths melt into the basement before the dust from the collapse cleared? Some other bizarre reason?

The only way to know for sure is to discuss it with a company that does this kind of work and ask them if they ever use thermite and if so for what.

2:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually it wouldn't be friction that generated the heat, it would be the force of the beams twisting and bending during the collapse, that's not really friction, does whoever posted this have any basic understanding of thermodynamics or other science?

8:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Actually it wouldn't be friction that generated the heat, it would be the force of the beams twisting and bending during the collapse, that's not really friction, does whoever posted this have any basic understanding of thermodynamics or other science?



Its still friction. The heat is generated because you have adjacent layers of atoms sliding across one another.

And if you had a basic understanding of thermodynamics you would realise that any process, such as the bending or twisting of steel, generates heat.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who was in charge of the twin towers, and wtc7 security, along with Dulles and American Airlines security? Marvin Bush, George Bush's younger brother. Weeks before, all security systems were shut down at the world trade center complex. Supposedly fiber optic cables were added for high-speed internet in the facility, giving access to the structure and allowing the possibility for the installation of thermate, and in the basement cutter charges. And when the towers fell, the steel I-beams seemed to be cleanly cut in 30 ft. sections so that they could be easily transported. And another thing, NORAD, under the control of Dick Cheney was doing drills of this exact senario the day of the 9/11 attacks. Dick Cheney was placed in charge under George Bush's command.
The action of shooting hostile planes down was overriden by Dick Cheney because he had them sent to other bases i.e. Canada. No one besides a general has ever been in control of NORAD.
George Bush and Dick Cheney should be in prison for treason. The tragedy of 9/11 should be reinvestigated. The 9/11 commission was a farce controlled by the people of the PNAC, Project for the New American Century.

10:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who was in charge of the twin towers, and wtc7 security, along with Dulles and American Airlines security? Marvin Bush, George Bush's younger brother. Weeks before, all security systems were shut down at the world trade center complex. Supposedly fiber optic cables were added for high-speed internet in the facility, giving access to the structure and allowing the possibility for the installation of thermate, and in the basement cutter charges. And when the towers fell, the steel I-beams seemed to be cleanly cut in 30 ft. sections so that they could be easily transported. And another thing, NORAD, under the control of Dick Cheney was doing drills of this exact senario the day of the 9/11 attacks. Dick Cheney was placed in charge under George Bush's command.
The action of shooting hostile planes down was overriden by Dick Cheney because he had them sent to other bases i.e. Canada. No one besides a general has ever been in control of NORAD.
George Bush and Dick Cheney should be in prison for treason. The tragedy of 9/11 should be reinvestigated. The 9/11 commission was a farce controlled by the people of the PNAC, Project for the New American Century.

10:26 PM  
Blogger supablogga said...

The installation of the high speed fiber optic cables in the Trade Center just weeks before is not supposed. It is fact. I helped process the World Trade Center contract with Network Plus in July 2001 when I worked for Florida East Coast Industries' EPIK Communications subsidiary. At the time, OC-12 was the fastest dark fiber cable available. The technology in the last mile switching system was classified. I could not look at the drawings or specifications and had to incorporate them into the contract by reference. Only our network engineers who had security clearances could look at them, but the cable and switching system was fast enough to coordinate hundreds of charges in a controlled demolition of the Towers.

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Blogger etimz said...

whats the name of the company that controlled the security of the twin towers and look into what they did a year to 6 months previous, i dont know the name of the company but you sure marvin bush was in charge of it?

10:21 PM  

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