Thursday, July 13, 2006

Prominent Christians Endorse 9/11 Truth

You might be interested to learn that numerous prominent Christian theologians have stated that an in-depth examination of what happened on 9/11 is a moral imperative for Christians.

For example, look at what ministers and Christian theologians from around the country are saying about "Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action", published by the official publisher for the Presbyterian Church (available here):

"Professor David Ray Griffin has a well-deserved reputation for the thoroughness of his research. All Americans who love their country enough to dig into the facts of these critical times will be well rewarded by examining his books. 9/11 truth is a very important issue---one with the power to bring lasting change to our country.”

—The Reverend William Sloane Coffin Jr, author of Credo: Letters to a Young Doubter and A Passion for the Possible: A Message to U.S. Churches

“A gripping account of precedents for the current global empire, from the Rome of Jesus to twentieth-century ‘false-flag’ operations. . . . His wake-up call to U.S. Christians will be evaded at our peril.”

—Catherine Keller, Professor of Theology, Drew University, and author of God and Power.

"WARNING: If, like most Americans calling themselves Christian, you prefer the comfort of acquiescing in the official version of 9/11 and the imperial wars it facilitated, DROP THIS BOOK NOW. But if you are open to the grace of honest inquiry and the risk of following the historical Jesus in confronting the evils of empire, this rigorously argued book is a MUST READ.”

—Ray McGovern, CIA veteran analyst now with Tell the Word, a project of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour, Washington, D.C.

"David Griffin has previously made the case for the Bush administration’s complicity in 9/11 and the cover-up of this evidence by the 9/11 Commission. Here, in this important book, he puts these shocking realities in the context of Christian theology and the challenge to the churches. In a profound exploration of the nature and history of the demonic, Griffin suggests that American empire is a culmination of human demonic alienation from God."

—Rosemary Radford Ruether, emeritus scholar, Claremont Graduate University and Claremont School of Theology

“Do American Christians want the United States to act like the New Rome, invading other countries to impose its imperial rule and its control of other peoples’ resources? That, however, is just what the US is doing, increasingly so since 9/11, explains David Griffin. In this gripping summary of evidence for the truth behind 9/11 and the 9/11 Commission report, Griffin makes a compelling case that the imperial practices of the American government have become a destructive force in the world. And he clarifies the biblical and theological basis for Christians to challenge the resurgent American imperialism that often claims divine blessing on its destructive actions.”

—Richard A. Horsley, Distinguished Professor of Liberal Arts and the Study of Religion, University of Massachusetts, and author of Jesus and Empire: The Kingdom of God and the New World Disorder

“If you are open to recognizing that the United States behaves much as other great powers have behaved, but you get your information through standard American channels, I dare you to expose yourself to the facts Griffin summarizes, facts that have been suppressed by our newspapers and magazines. If you are one who wants to be a disciple of Jesus, you will have some hard thinking to do about what American Christians are called to be and to do at this historical moment.”

—John B. Cobb Jr, co-author of The American Empire and the Commonwealth of God

“Are we brave enough to read this nerve-wracking book, one of the most important theological texts of our time? Rooted in the longstanding belief that Christians share responsibility for shaping a more justice-loving world, Griffin makes a strong case that the real "conspiracy theory" about 9/11 is the Bush Administration's silly notion that nineteen young Arab men could have pulled it off. Griffin helps us wrestle with questions that are almost too much to bear, yet which may empower us, if we dare, to build a more truthful and, over time, more deeply moral nation and world.”

—The Reverend Carter Heyward, Robbins Professor of Theology Emerita, Episcopal Divinity School, Cambridge, Massachusetts, and author of Saving Jesus from Those Who Are Right and God in the Balance: Christian Spirituality in Times of Terror

Now watch for yourself an interview on BBC television of a prominent theologian outlining some of these issues.

As Christians, we have a moral duty to take a hard look at the facts for ourselves.





16 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

David Ray Griffin is a liberal theological hack who is out to sell books. He frequently commits the logical fallacy of circular reasoning and ad verecundiam in his arguments. His "theology" is not orthodox Christian according to the Bible. His brand of Christianity would not be recognized by Jesus.

AD
www.gospelanswers1.com

4:27 AM  
Blogger Rick said...

nice ad hominem attack anon!

you give no examples of his "logical fallacy"

you site no examples of his ""theology""

typical of the deceitfulness of a neocon apologist.

http://www.republicansfor911truth.com

9:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow the post input thing is in fucking German. What's with that?

As Leonard Cohen's song say, Everybody knows.

The only question left is will impeaching the president and a few general be enough, because it looks like the international bankers will vanish once again, retaining power.

Dump the banks, bring back industry and jobs to North America, quit allowing the Bankers and the Zionists to control US foreign policy.

When will this rampage of murdering women and children in 3rd world countries end, while the Christian West is robbed and raped by creeps?

Even the Jews are now openly admitting they don't dominate the porn industry for the money.

Its the chance to wreck the West that keeps them constantly crapping on us.

http://www.jewishquarterly.org/article.asp?articleid=38

7:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

in response to the first comment:

Arthur, on your website, you claim that you have not read any of David Ray Griffin's books. Shouldn't that be a prerequisite to calling him a "hack who is out to sell books"? I agree with you that some of his sources are ridiculous (Hufschmid, Bollyn), but that should not cause us to stop seeking the truth. Even the Apostle Paul quoted pagan philosophersin Acts...his purpose was not to praise the philosophers, but to reveal some truth. Likewise, the purpose of Griffin's works are not to declare anything resembling orthodoxy on the topic of 9/11. He is rather making a humble "Call to Reflection and Action", as his latest book's subtitle says.

I recommend you try reading "Christian Faith and the Truth About 9/11". Then your debunking won't be ad hominem. Otherwise, people might think that you are also a theological hack who is out to sell books.

-Zach Long

7:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rick...you apparently know little about what constitutes an ad hominem. On my website, which I posted, there are plenty of examples of Griffin's erroneous nonsense. And all you have to do is look at the school he taught at, and at some of the reviews of his theological books to tell what kind of theology he holds. Apparently you don't do much research.

And finally, who said I was a "neocon"? Are we making assumptions here? LOL. Typical.

AD
www.gospelanswers1.com

10:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zach Long...

First, there is no ad hominem in what I posted about Griffin. All that I stated is true and has been proved by careful research.

While it is true I have not read any of his books, I hope you did read the part where I did make clear what writings of Griffin that I DID read. As a writer myself, I know that writers don't radically change their basic style overnight. So it is rational for me to presume that his books will not be radically different than what he has written elsewhere. So no, I do not necessarily have to read his printed books to understand the kind of writer he is.

I'm glad you can see how crazy it is that he relies on sources like Eric Hufschmid. But it appears that you don't get the point that when someone uses sources that are not credible, it follows that the points they make based on such sources are also not credible.

Yes, Paul did quote pagan poets in Acts, but if you notice, what he quoted was in harmony with revealed Scripture. It was not something that was not true. It was a credible quotation that probably had its basis in prior Scripture. But the same is not the case with the sources used by Griffin.

Griffin makes fundamental errors in his reasoning, and by relying on inappropriate authorities he is guilty of what's called the ad verecundiam fallacy. And that is the main fallacy inherent within all of 911 conspiracy claims. You don't have doctorate level civil and structural engineers on your side writing in support of these wild conspiracy claims. And the reason for that is simple. The claims don't hold up to scrutiny.

And when it comes to my views, I don't have any 911 books to sell, and my theology is in line with the historic Christian faith handed down through the ages.

AD
www.gospelanswers1.com

10:45 AM  
Anonymous SacrAmerican said...

Aren’t the discrepancies in the government’s version of 9/11 justification enough to warrant further investigation? Why is it so necessary for Americans to tear apart every single person who challenges the Bush administration’s version of 9/11? Why do some associate blind faith with patriotism? This protective stance, or better put, diversion has until now successfully redirected America’s attention with the simple objective of allowing the existing hogwash to remain unchallenged. The truth which has been so elusive needs to be illuminated in order for our nation ever feel reassured that similar attacks will not reach the level of death and destruction seen on that horrible day in September of 2001. Please folks stop attacking one another and focus on the real issues that are before us, one by one. Begin with Project Able Danger, the August 2001 war simulations and most significantly the President‘s friendship with the bin Laden family and the Saudi royal family who financed bin Laden’s terrorist operations. Do you honestly feel these and other situational contributions are all mere coincidence? Let’s get focused here!

8:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SacrAmerican...

The problem is, first you assume that there is a "government version" as if it were a monolith based on one person's view. It is not. Thousands of different people from various fields of study and scientific expertise have taken a look at these conspiracy theories.

They have concluded that the vast majority of conspiracy claims are fraudulent or simply based on the ignorance of people pretending to know civil engineering, physics, and so forth, without really knowing what they're talking about.

Why is it that not ONE doctorate level civil engineer supports conspiracy theories in writing? Why? Perhaps because conspiracy theorists are making things up or don't fully understand the issues of building collapse? I find that very disturbing, and so far I am unconvinced that there are more problems with the "government version" to warrant some kind of further investigation.

What you need to investigate is the fact that people on the conspiracy side of things lie, distort facts, mistate facts, take firefighters and eyewitnesses out of context, and commit all kinds of logical fallacies while attempting to "prove" these conspiracy theories. That is what needs to be investigated.

Speculation about ties between Bush and the Bin Laden's and all that is not what we need to focus on. Carter had a relationship with the Saudis. Are we going to blame Carter in some kind of wild conspiracy too? Please...let's get really focused and stop blindly accepting foolish claims by people who have nothing better to do than to sit around on a computer and read conspiratorial nonsense, and when that nonsense is refuted time and again by expert testimony, they continue to believe the refuted nonsense regardless of the facts.

I suggest you have a look at these:

www.911myths.com
www.debunking911.com

And finally, have a look at this critique of Griffin's latest book:
http://www.911myths.com/drg_nist_review_1_1.pdf

The truth is out there...you just have to have the courage to research and accept the TRUTH, not lies dressed up to look like truth.

AD
www.gospelanswers1.com

1:29 PM  
Blogger Nino said...

go to 911 truth.org and you'll find many phd holding critics of the official story. its a joke - youre a joke anon

1:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nino, please learn the meaning of "ad verecundiam" fallacy. And reread what I wrote. Having a Ph.D. in economics does NOT mean you know civil engineering.

The real joke is the so-called 911 "truth" movement and conspiracy theries.

AD
www.gospelanswers1.com

11:30 AM  
Blogger iraqconcilable said...

http://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html#Gage

There was nothing orthodox about Jesus . He challenged mortal authority . So should we all .

9:06 PM  
Blogger tomtomtheatombomb said...

Ac tung Anon, you should know neocons are neonazi like yourself.
You make personal attacks right out of Goebbels play book.
The fascist are in Washington, D.C. and hatched this plan along time ago.
Now people (loose description) like yourself must squash science (not possible for 757 or 737 to behave like the device that flew into the Pentagon), pilotsfor911truth.org, or fact (WTC 1&2 could not "pancake" in time, not to mention WTC 7) aefor911truth.org, or should we open our hearts to the homeland of the new vorld order because we are the greatest and must crush the opposition and rule the world.
So you stay anonymous Karl (Karl Rove ein ka put) and I'll put my trust in people (exactly) like David Ray Griffin at sites like George's.
Thank you for this exchange.

2:10 PM  
Blogger cm2dogs said...

..and jesus said , you will know my sheep by there love for one another;...no man knows the day nor the hour the son of man will return but when you see these signs you can know the time is near....I try to live by these words please,allow me to put them in a context all by themself. for the purpose of my comment.
In my fathers words as he put it " son the truth rings like a bell, anything less sounds like a thud." (okie wisdom)
we are living in an information age bombarded from all sides a common man, shell shocked at best is so easely confused. my comment is simply this,..in love why are not all questions being answered ..respectfuly..are country has been asalted.
those looking for signs of jesus return or any other americain need all there doughts assured many will be asked to send sons to war ...god sent his son to redeem the world, dont we have the right to make sure ...before we send one singel child to kill another....lets help all our nation here the ring of truth no matter where it leads...in love for those world over let not one be deceived CM

6:03 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

To Anon (www.gospelanswers1.com)

I am a Bible-Believing Christian - I believe the Bible is the infallible Word of God, that Jesus is God incarnate, that He rose from the dead – that there is only one way to Heaven, and that is through Jesus Christ, God's Son. We would probably agree on many, if not most things theological.. But I have to comment that you really do NOT know what you're talking about concerning 911 Truth or the research concerning the events of 9/11. I believe you have been duped along with most Christians today and that is really unfortunate. I've spent the last four years researching this event. I have read just about every book and watched every CD published on this subject and have also been to 911 conferences around the country. It shows a tremendous amount of ignorance to comment on this issue when you yourself have stated that you have not even read the material (referring to Griffin's books). Can you honestly go to Patriots Question 911 (www.patriotsquestion911.com) and say that what we've brought forth for discussion is all just "wild conspiracy theories" – that everybody who has genuine, valid questions concerning this massive cover-up is a “flat earther”? Have you really looked at the political, physical, and scientific evidence from those who ARE qualified to comment? In addition, just because somebody isn’t an “expert” in a particular area, that doesn’t mean everything they say regarding a particular subject is “null and void”. I am not a structural engineer.. But I can comment on what is “reasonable”, what is “logical”, and what is “impossible”. The events of 9/11, to happen as they are laid out in the “official story” is simply IMPOSSIBLE. But you wouldn’t understand that because you haven’t read anything it seems but the 9/11 debunking sites.. I am discerning and do seek the truth (John 8:32) and have looked at those sites as well– they are a desperate attempt to prop up the “official story”. You can’t see the truth in 9/11 Truth because you don’t want to believe the message. You want another truth, one that is more palatable.

If when presented with all the material you can only say “coincidence” or “wild theory”, please then present YOUR evidence that backs up the “official” story – the story that you believe. You will have a VERY DIFFICULT TIME finding anything that is credible or anything that is consistent with the evidence. The amount of evidence on all fronts that the “official story” is a lie is OVERWHELMING! It’s amazing anybody still believes the official lie… simply ludicrous.

My hope is that Christians will get off their couch, turn off Fox news, and start to investigate things for themselves.. It’s not a matter or Republican or Democrat.. It’s about Right and Wrong. It’s about exposing deception, if for no other reason than to prevent those from believing the next big lie that comes down the pike. Can we stop the ruling Oligarchy from their goal of world domination? I don’t actually believe we can – sorry to say. If you know your Bible, in the end times, there will be a world ruler who will declare himself to be God. On this earth, that person would be called a Dictator. We are on that road. It won’t happen in a vacuum. Things have to change for the worse so that the ruler of this world can to take his place in history. We know the end of the book. That said, I think we still must RESIST at every turn to uphold what is right, true, and in keeping with truth. Stop perpetuating the big lie please. It saddens me to see Christians being so ignorant of the world they live in.

11:09 PM  
Blogger Rich Rev said...

What's really sad is that Bush's core supporters are Christians like James Dobson, Jerry Falwell etc. I do not believe these Christians are bad people. I believe they are deceived and they have accepted a common myth about America - and that is that America can do no wrong. Whatever foreign policy that America undertakes regardless of its Machiavaellian nature, is good because America makes it good.

Most Christians are really naive about what is happening in the world around them. They do what Christians do, they go to church, they have potluck dinners and they go to work and raise their families.

Unfortunately corrupt and evil world leaders are busy doing what they do - which is planning destruction and global domination in the name of God, or Oil, or Allah, or Democracy or whatever.

Witness KBR received a $385 million contract to build detention centers all over America - enough for 400,000 people.

Witness the Patriot Act II which is written and waiting for the right moment to be tabled.

The neocons have clearly stated their goals in such documents as the "New American Century" -- much as Hitler clearly stated his goals in Mein Kampf.

Many in the West refused to believe Hitler was leading the world into a catastrophic war, because they preferred the reality they hoped and worked for, where everyone lives in peace and bad people do not exist.

The Bible also states clearly that in the end times "brother will turn against brother and think he is doing God a favor." It also says the God will send a deceiving spirit so that those who refuse to believe the truth will believe a lie.

And the attacks on the WTC are definitely a lie - a huge one. Hitler said if you are going to tell a lie, make it a Big One because the Big Lie is more readily believed.

You don't have to be an engineer or a nuclear physicist to figure out the WTC attacks are a fraud. It's basically a question of common sense. Buildings don't fall down by themselves - something must occur to make them collapse. Either earthquake or bombing or demolition or some outside force. WTC-7 was neither hit by a plane or engulfed in fire, yet it collapsed in 7 seconds flat.

"There's something rotten in the state of Denmark." -William Shakespeare

6:58 PM  
Blogger EoSoZ said...

9/11 is a "kook" movement because it is full of agent provacateurs who purposely make an effort to taint the movement as foolish. It's a discrediting tactic and it works on many. In addition, these fools and more credible agent provacateur 9/11 "truthers" direct blame on the US government and AWAY from Israel. It doesn't take a physcist or engineer to see who was behind the attack.

If you need more obvious proof, look at who profitted from 9/11. The US? no Muslims? no Israel? You betcha.

3:53 PM  

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