Thursday, November 08, 2007

Government's 9/11 Investigators Were ALSO Lead OKC Bombing Investigators

Would you be surprised to learn that the exact same investigators who headed up the government's investigation into the World Trade Center collapses and the Pentagon attack on 9/11 also headed up the government's investigation into the Oklahoma City bombing?

The WTC collapses, Pentagon attack and OKC bombing involved assessments of entirely different kinds of structures inflicted with different kinds of damage. And there are 1.5 million engineers in the U.S., many of them highly-qualified to investigate attacks and their damage.

And yet the authors of the official report on the Murrah Federal Building -- Gene Corley, Charles Thornton, Paul Mlaker, and Mete Sozen -- were all among the initial team of the American Society of Civil Engineers' 9/11 investigation.

Several of these individuals have strong connections to industries that benefited from the attack, and that would suffer if it were known that 9/11 was an inside job, such as armaments makers and oil and gas producers.

As if that is not bad enough, the same handful of people who came up with the unscientific "pancake collapse" theory for the Twin Towers while working for FEMA then moved over to spread unscientific theories for NIST:
  • FEMA Chapter 1 authors:
    • Therese McAllister: co-write NIST report 1-6 and 1-7
    • John Gross: co-wrote NIST report 1-6 and 1-7
    • Ronald Hamburger: NIST contributor
  • FEMA Chapter 2 authors:
    • Ronald Hamburger: see above
    • William Baker: NIST contributor, Freedom Tower
    • Harold Nelson: co-wrote NIST report 1-5 and 1-7
  • FEMA Chapter 5 authors (WTC7):
    • Ramon Gilsanz: co-wrote NIST report 1-6F
    • Harold Nelson: see above

Does this essay put the above-described information in perspective?

All of the above information and much of the actual content and presentation comes from Kevin Ryan's presentation
A New Standard for Deception and Jim Hoffman's review of that speech. All of the credit goes to Kevin Ryan and Jim Hoffman.


Blogger Unknown said...

Yet the denial of the fact that we are being lied to here prevails. Let's make sure kids in school graduate with words like pravda, orwellian, Geneva Conventions, war crime, war profiteering, false flag, Bill of Rights, human rights, torture, controlled demolition, and propaganda in their vocabulary. They must have took thoes words out of the books somewhere back there.

2:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

see Dr.Seffen's work- it verifies the NIST exhaustive reort

6:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Philosophy holds the place at the pinnacle of all human knowledge.

As a philosopher, I must warn everyone to look more often and, with a keener eye for how common are the scientific lies you read in print, or that you hear expressed by the media.

Compare that with how often these liars speak the truth, if ever. Look. Listen. You will see.

Presently vast expenditures of public money are commonly garnered from the public coffers by the best liars and propagandists on the planet for the scientific invention of ever more stupendous ways to murder and debase humanity.

And the big lie is what is intrinsic to the idea that science is practiced to make all our lives better.

This notion is simply a fraud.

Neither the intent nor the result of science bears any truth.

What truth will there be for anyone when every human is dead at the hands of some scientific unawares or simple miscalculation?

Thank your lucky stars Ted Kaczynski was not a bio-med or a genetic engineering student at Harvard. Harvard should be put out of business.

And note, the same education given to doctors is also given to those who perfect bio-weapons. And then note how in fact, all of the work of doctors also produces unintended bio-weapons.

You have all been lied into believing there will be an empirical messiah. Pshaw, fools!

You will not live forever.

Science will not solve all the problems of the world.

Science will not even solve a single problem science has created.

And you cannot make life better.


How could life be better?

None of these statements are StarTrek popular.

These statements are nonetheless the truth about what you have been taught.

Science is but witchcraft, only more dangerous for our terrifically ignorant and wholly gullible humanity.

I'm talking at you. Hello! Hello! Is there anyone out there?

Don Robertson, The American Philosopher

8:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9-11 truther, NO I am NOT at all surprised! They were probably same investigators of 1st bombing of WTC too! And alot of other things as well! NO surprise to me! Some of same traitors who killed JFK are STILL alive and probably helped do 9-11 too! Wake up! It's ALL tied in together! JFK, Waco, OKC bombing,1st WTC attack, 9-11, Madrid, London, Bombay! ALL part of pure evil,Satan worshipping New World Order pure evil agenda! FACTS! THIS IS THE TRUTH! DO RESEARCH! ALL OF WHAT I JUST SAID IS TRUE! ALL!

12:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
see Dr.Seffen's work- it verifies the NIST exhaustive reort"

I am not interested in the work of one person. I want scientists who are engaged in the daily use of explosives and who understand gravity. I want openness and transparency. Some under-30 kid from Cambridge doesn't cut it. Cambridge is notorious as the seed-bed for intel recruitments, both British and foreign.

There should be no doubt about the sources.

12:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"see Dr.Seffen's work- it verifies the NIST exhaustive reort.."

i've read part of Seffen's report. It's one, long-winded piece of obfuscation, designed to clutter up one's mind with misleading theories.

A major part of his theory rests on what happens to a party ballon one blows up????

This guy teaches at Cambridge?

He must have a PhD in Bullshitology.

4:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's only one important question concerning the attacks, did the US gov't allow/participate in 9/11?

The answer to that query would explain the illegal wire-taps, suspension of habeas corpus, banning of books like "America Deceived" from Amazon, detaining of dissenters in fences miles away from events, and multiple wars based on lies.

How can the gov't be innocent in 9/11 when we have caught it lying so many times (WACO, Ruby Ridge, no WMDs, USS Liberty, Operation Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbor, ETC.)?

In law, if you determine a person lies ONCE during his testimony, it can be assumed that he lied in the remainder of his testimony. How come we do not hold the gov't to the same standard as it holds us to?

The gov't lied to us about Iraq and more Americans have died there than in 9/11. If the gov't lied about Iraq then why is everyone so reluctant to believe that the gov't lied about 9/11?

Final link (before Google Books bends to pressure and drops the title):
America Deceived (book)

7:50 AM  
Blogger Big Dan said...

8:01 PM  
Blogger Big Dan said...

Why do links come out screwed up like that?

8:04 PM  

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